Really?

"FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem" (fuelstratifiedinjection)
05/19/2016 at 11:21 • Filed to: None

The Forza 6 Ultimate Edition costs $79.99 in the US but a whooping €109.49 in Germany??!?

What the actual fuck, Microsoft.

DISCUSSION (12)

djmt1 > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem
05/19/2016 at 11:27

US price doesn’t include tax I think.

Ash78, voting early and often > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem
05/19/2016 at 11:32

I bet there's some sort of VAT embedded for every car available in the game. Because EU.

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > djmt1
05/19/2016 at 11:32

I think you’re right.

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > Ash78, voting early and often
05/19/2016 at 11:34

But the cars aren’t sold seperately (afaik) so taxes apply to the packs.

Ash78, voting early and often > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem
05/19/2016 at 11:37

I was (less jokingly) going to say $100 vs $110 is almost pure exchange rate. $80 vs $110 is still not an unusual differential for US vs Europe, including exchange and taxes, plus maybe whatever small import duties they might have. Compared to buying a car, that's a steal. But I don't know how much games normally differ in price.

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > Ash78, voting early and often
05/19/2016 at 11:41

I forgot that the price displayed was without vat. Try doing that in German and the feds would be all over you.

Cé hé sin > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem
05/19/2016 at 12:18

Prices in America don’t include tax which accounts for some of the difference. The rest is a rip off.

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > Cé hé sin
05/19/2016 at 12:20

I figuered that one out. I’m just not used to it.

Ash78, voting early and often > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem
05/19/2016 at 15:45

Just not possible here...the embedded corporate taxes are already in the price, while the sales taxes vary by the local municipality. Both systems suck, but I have always at least appreciated the European system of showing me exactly how much I'm paying (even if it does hide tons of embedded taxes)

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > Ash78, voting early and often
05/19/2016 at 16:18

Well, the taxes aren’t exactly hidden but rather stupid. For example, there’s a tax on the tax for gasoline here in Germany. And that’s just for gas, diesel doesn’t have that extra tax. Out of curiousity, what’s the vat in your state?

Ash78, voting early and often > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem
05/19/2016 at 16:21

There is no VAT anywhere in the US. Basically, if you think about the taxes the corporations have to pay, those can't simply come out of thin air (or VAT), so they simply embed it into the price of the product; whereas in Europe most of that tax is clearly disclosed in the form of VAT (not exactly the same, but the idea overlaps). So in addition to our “hidden” tax, we have a sales tax that usually consists of 3 pieces: state, county, and city. In my city, that’s 4%, plus 3%, plus 2% for a total of 9%. That is added to everything from food to most hard goods (but not prescription drugs or most services). Large items like cars only pay a smaller amount, like 3%, to reduce to burden on their sales. Other cities and states might offer ZERO taxes for groceries, but in most cases those areas also charge much higher taxes for property ownership. It really varies widely on location, but on the whole, our total tax burden is much lower than Europe (which is why we have mediocre infrastructure and no universal healthcare, but there are always tradeoffs...)

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > Ash78, voting early and often
05/19/2016 at 16:28

Interesting, I didn’t know that.